Why The RED PILL Is Just Another SCAM (real talk for real bros)

| by Truth Seeker |

Today, I will tell you why the red pill doesn’t work in the most blunt fashion that I can.

Reason 1: It purposefully confuses symptoms for leverage.

The ultimate reason why the red pill fails is that it sells peripheral behavior, a.k.a. symptoms, to people as a form of leverage.

A sample of red pill techniques:

  • Dread Game
  • Holding Frame
  • Being Mysterious
  • Negging
  • Preselection
  • Amused Mastery
  • Push–Pull
  • Indifference / Abundance Mindset
  • Outcome Independence
  • Qualifying
  • Scarcity / Unavailability
  • Leading
  • Escalation
  • Fitness / Status Maximization (SMV boosting)
  • Triangular Gaze / Sexual Framing
  • Agree & Amplify
  • Frame Control in Arguments
  • Silent Treatment / Withdrawing Attention

What if I tell you the above is close to total bullshit, albeit not 100% but very, very close?

I am not saying that it doesn’t have its value; it does.

However, in practice, those antics are simply the result of having actual leverage, rather than the leverage itself.

Allow me to provide a somewhat unusual example.

Somewhat mega-ironically, the people who follow most of the above unintentionally are …..wait for it……

WOMEN!

Not kidding, kid.

Let’s go over the main ones:

Dread Game – Women do that all the time to average/nice guys without even knowing what it’s called. Why? They think they can do better, but at the same time want to have string people along (back-up plan). The result? Mixed hot/cold signals and thus dread.

Holding Frame – Women hold frame REALLY well in their interaction with average dudes. They rarely, if ever, meet at a time or place they find inconvenient. If they are somewhere with a bro, they are there because they want to or at least find it acceptable.

A woman easily burns the bridge when a mid-bro is bending her frame. Easily.

Negging – Women neg you on dates all the time. It may be soft, it may be hard, but it’s always there. ALWAYS and about all kinds of stuff.

Preselection (a.k.a. showing that you are desired/preselected by the other genders) – well, women do that via social media too. When she has 50 likes (very modest here) on every pic she posts, she is once again signaling that people are paying attention to her.

What do you think she is doing when she is bragging about the number of guys in her DMs?

Or the number of matches on the apps?

It’s exactly that. Signs of preselection. Signs that she is desired.

Push–Pull – Ditto for that nonsense. It’s very common for a woman to start very warm for you, only to get cold. The replies slow down and get rarer and drier. But if she wants to, she can “pull” you again at any moment.

Indifference / Abundance Mindset – Well, this is obvious. The modern woman is living the “abundance mindset” to the point of total disillusionment. The basic example is height. Even if only 4% of the men in her country are above 5’10”, she lives as if there is no shortage of them.

Hence, she doesn’t get obsessed over some average dude who ghosts her. She doesn’t even have enough care to notice it. And she knows that with close to no effort, a mid-bro can be pulled once again.

Outcome Independence – Same, again. I’ve seldom been on a date where the woman is brutally concerned with the outcome. It has happened, but it’s sporadic and temporary.

Qualifying (making the other person “earn” your attention or approval). This is essentially what modern men do all the time for women – QUALIFYING. Whether you are me or Andrew Tate, you are being judged as to whether you are good enough from her perspective.

Scarcity / Unavailability (limiting time and attention given). Women do that all the time. Once she’s seen enough of you, she gets progressively more distant, searching for that better product. She gets bored….and thus becomes unavailable….for you.

Leading. Women want to be led – meaning – they want some rich, hot dude to give them a good time without much effort or thinking coming from them. However, when some average dude tries to lead – lol.

Good luck with that, unless she is already into you, the only thing you will lead is the taxi that you take after yet another kissless/sexless date.

Fitness / Status Maximization (SMV boosting) – Some women do that via make-up, workouts (glute-focused selfies), etc.

So, what’s the moral of the story here?

Women have been doing red pill tactics without knowing it.

Why? Are they reading the book of Rollo Tomato The Rational Male, or maybe they’ve been listening to the podcasts of Rich the Mini Cooper?

Of course not.

It comes down to LEVERAGE.

Those tactics ARE THE RESULT OF LEVERAGE in the dating scene. Or in other words, they are in a strong position and do them intuitively.

Those tactics are the side effect of having “pulling and social power”. The tactics are NOT creating the power themselves.

Let’s think. Imagine you can hop on Tinder or another app from hell and get 99+ matches with women that are 4-5/10 and fit.

And now make most of them willing to meet you if you so desire, on mostly your terms (location, time, etc.)

That’s what women under 30 (and possibly over 30) experience.

Ultimately, adopting red pill tactics without leverage is akin to expecting to become a firefighter by wearing a uniform.

Reason 2: The RED PILL Has You Chasing Unicorns

Another major flaw of the red pill is that it makes you obsess over women’s red flags while directly or indirectly implying that somewhere out there, a pure virgin woman is waiting for ” her real man,” and that might be you.

Bro, I have bad news.

And I mean very bad news.

Let’s use the filter method to determine the probability of that outcome.

It’s simple. Each filter diminishes the likelihood of that fairy tale by some percentage.

Logically, more filters = a narrower funnel = fewer chances

  1. How many “pure women” are there in existence where you live?
  2. How many of them are “truly pure” instead of just looking pure?
  3. How many of them can you logistically meet?
  4. How many of them are of acceptable age for you?
  5. How many of them do you like?
  6. How many of them like you back?
  7. Can you beat the competition?
  8. How many of them ARE FREE (no husband/boyfriend)?
  9. How many of them are from your social background? (Even “pure women” date up or equal.)
  10. How many of them are fertile? (A woman can be young and still have a difficult time conceiving – which is the main purpose of relationships….)

The list is ENDLESS.

And the brutal reality is that you have literally a higher chance to win the lottery than to find the mythical “traditional/pure/unicorn” woman that all those redpill cuntoids are pushing you into searching.

Those women are rare as unicorns and pure only temporarily.

The brutal truth is that the world is simply NOT producing them.

Hence why they are rare, and if you decide to search for one forever, you become the EQUIVALENT of a female waiting for the so-called “Chad” to come save her.

And one can even argue that there are more Chads than pure women simply because Chads are the result of genetics, whereas pure women are the result of social programming…

Even if you do everything right and “build yourself up”, the INSANELY low supply of such women makes it pointless to search for them.

If you plan to migrate to another country where you will allegedly find those unicorns, you are once again hallucinating.

The reason why women from “poor countries” appear “pure” to you is MONEY or the belief that you have lots of it. They are actually THE SAME as the women around you.

And I am not talking just about the classic Southeast Asia experience. It applies to the white women, too.

It’s very common for Western men (France, Germany, etc.) to get together with a woman from Eastern Europe (Bulgaria, Ukraine, Poland, Romania, etc) while bullshitting themselves that those women are pure and traditional.

Just ask the men from those countries, and you will get the idea. It’s the same fiasco all over again. The reason is that those women are simply cheaper to buy than the locals. If you were the same man but not a foreigner from a “rich country”, they would treat you just like they treat their hometown bros.

The truth?

The goal is not to find a woman without RED FLAGS, but one with RED FLAGS you can tolerate and navigate around.

It’s like buying a used car. Something is or will be wrong with it fairly fast. The question is to what extent it is reparable/manageable.

If you decide to look for “perfection”, you will never find it. And you will remain stuck living that “men age like wine” lifestyle while listening to yet another low-IQ podcast produced by a person who is actually quite unhappy and also searching for that unicorn.

Reason 3: It Spreads Unsupported Claims

Social media is full of anecdotal red pill wisdom. Of course, there’s some truth to it, but there is also a lot of made-up bullshido.

Example: If you want to know how a woman behaves in marriage, look at her mother (and similar stuff that sounds wise and intelligent but fails in practice).

The truth is that a woman could be MEGA different from her mother because women take their “brain software” from the father.

Yet a lot of red pillers try to act wise as if they know everything while giving you sandwiches filled with truth+assumption+wise-but-empty words.

Reason 4: They Actually Want You Stagnant…Perpetually

Just like dating apps don’t actually want you to find someone because you will leave and stop paying for the extra features, the red pill gurus want you in a state of weird hypnosis all the time, too.

They want you on the red pill treadmill forever so that you keep buying their courses and whatever else they are selling.

They also want you to validate their claims.

They are constantly changing the goalpost (you are never rich or alpha enough) and having you self-improve into oblivion.

If the outcome isn’t positive, it’s your fault even if you’ve done everything expected of you.

If the outcome is positive, it’s because of their miraculous advice rather than luck or basic effort.

It’s a business. And you are the client and the product.

Reason 5: It Tries To Fix a Systemic Problem via a Personal Solution

The Red Pill is not the solution.

Why?

It’s like trying to fix inflation by becoming richer – it only works for a minority of people (a personal solution) while the rest are left behind.

Your male ancestors didn’t have to watch 500 podcasts and dig through the entire globe to find a partner. All they had to do was go outside (which was the norm back then) and breathe.

But you?

You have to meet 150 requirements.

They call it hoeflation.

The digital infrastructure, the mainstream code of relationship conduct, the support of the government, the contraception methods, etc., created a free dating market driven by chaotic female emotions.

As a result, women have unrealistic/delusional expectations that men can’t fulfill EVER on an average basis.

But since women control sex and the beginning (and usually the end) of a relationship, the madness continues, and the market worth of a single female has reached epic proportions despite their arguable worth.

Your grandfather could afford a home with the salary of a shoe seller. But today, you need five side hustles just for the first payment.

Your grandfather got married at 19 to a virgin girl without getting ghosted on 500 dates. Today, you are begging in the DMs of 1000+ sluts with a shady past.

The solution, according to the red pill crowd, is to just “build yourself up” and find that “high value girl”.

But that stuff will FOREVER only work for a small number of people.

Yes, hard work increases your chances, but the underlying issue is way bigger than the individual.

Hence why the “just get rich bro” and “wait for the unicorn” is a bit like “if you’re homeless, just buy a house”.

Reason 6: The Late Game of Red Pillers Is Just LoL

I’ve never seen a popular Red Piller fulfill the goalpost of the movement. Usually, the outcomes are:

  • They burn out and go into oblivion (the most common)
  • They go against their teachings and get together and even marry a post-wall woman.
  • They go completely and utterly insane.

I’ve never heard of a popular PUA or other forms of RED Pillers finish well. Not saying it’s their fault entirely at all.

It’s just the nature of the game. And the fact that the teachings of the red pill just can’t create enough leverage to overcome the massive obstacle that men face today.

Reason 7: Too Much “You Can Get Big Naturally Mentality”

Finally, I’d like to link the main issue to the muscle-constructing drama that the entire site is built upon.

Simply put, red pillers will lie to your face that you too can get big naturally if you train hard/the right way.

They want you to think that all the obstacles in front of you can be beaten if you do the work. They will never tell you that you are “phucked” because they will lose a client.

The brutal truth is that hitting the gym, getting new clothes, and getting a haircut can only do so much.

Sure. If you are some fatso-swine pretty boy with a good foundation, losing weight and dressing nicely can take you from invisible into the 8/10 category, but most people ARE NOT in that situation.

Plenty of men with ok physiques (probably as good as they can get naturally without starving to maintain low BF) get ghosted, insulted, cheated on…etc.

By all means, IMPROVE. Stop smoking, drinking, and get in decent shape. DO IT.

But don’t hate me when I say “I told you so” when you do all of that and nothing really happens..

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29 comments

  1. Pessimist

    So I guess we’re are all fu#*ed for 3 generations at least?

    1. Truth Seeker Post author

      the inertia is pretty bad

      the situation has been getting worse for close to 2 decades (since around 2007).

      so my guess is that over the next 2 decades it will go from worse to worst

      eventually (when we are either super old or super dead), the wheel will spin and men will regain power

      Could take 20 years….could take 70.

      I have no idea.

      1. Pessimist

        Yes I agree but I’m starting the fight over here in Perth Australia.It’s a sh#%show here.
        Wish me luck.

        1. Aoi

          Don’t go “ER” now bro…

        2. Simon

          Interesting. I always thought the Red Pill movement was actually about telling men to be realistic in their expectations and to not get played by women. I didn’t know it was telling men that there are these secrets to getting hot women.

  2. Matt

    Some parts of the red pill are useful, others are basically just teaching you to be avoidantly attached. All dating advice is ultimately for if you have a “marketing” problem. If you’re a solid guy with a lot going for you, but you just don’t know what you’re doing with women. The idea that these marketing tricks can help a loser beyond getting casual sex with the trashiest 2/10 of women is the big lie. Balanced with advice from other areas, I don’t think that the Red Pill is that bad. The community and grifters around it are insufferable though.

    Most dating market problems are about what subculture you’re in. If you’re in the wrong subculture, especially low socio-economic class combined with secular values, MGTOW is the best option. But if you change for the better, different subcultures have different types of women. Anything mainstream is trash, but why would you want to be a part of that?

    1. Mysterio

      The issue here is that men don’t know how to evaluate themselves. In order for a man to have the same power a woman normally does, the man has to be above the woman. Roughly 2 points on the scale.

      So an 8 man can get with a 6 and enjoy leverage. But you will always be aiming down.

  3. Anonymous Knight

    I believe the best option is simply to be yourself and to hope you meet a woman who accepts and appreciates you as you are, ideally someone who is also emotionally available, which is unfortunately rare. Anything else, including “pill” theories, isn’t very effective. The reality is that some guys will always have an easier time, even moving straight into relationships or marriages. It’s tough. Things used to feel much simpler and more enjoyable, especially about ten years ago. I remember when Tinder first came out. Almost every match turned into a date, sometimes even a hookup. There was definitely less narcissism back then, and people were more focused on meeting in person right away.

    1. Truth Seeker Post author

      I had no idea about Tinder at the time.

      But what you describe could also be because the app was still in its infancy and less focused on profit.

      All products eventually turn to garbage in the pursuit of more money (e.g., search engines).

      Today, I wouldn’t be surprised if most people working on those apps are actually paid to keep you AS FAR AWAY as possible from a real date.

      For example, I wouldn’t be surprised if the algorithm purposefully pushes women who text less (e.g., ghost more often) to the front, so that you drift away from the women who are actually more open to talking.

      By pushing these “chronic ghosters” to the front, they ensure you stay stuck in ghost prison.

      Of course, the app can only control people to a certain degree.

      But I bet there are many more dirty tactics designed to keep you hooked—LIKE A CASINO…

  4. Pedro

    One thing is to forever seek for unicorns and another one is to linger with women who only see “friendship” material on you. All extremes are bad, if you are “a friend” then that vehicle you just can’t ride no matter how much you spend trying to fix it.

  5. Erasus

    I wish Truth Seeker could write separate post or idk explain his view in the comment how he thinks or understands certain things. A lot of posts are about leverage one has, but I guess I will never understand women in its entirety, and probably so many other guys won’t.

    A lot of times I see strange phenomenon like very average looking guy at best walking with beautiful girl and they seem to enjoy each other looking from the side, I was wondering how does that work, do you see such thing as very temporary, is it rigged, because what I see nowadays its like very few extremely good looking guys with extremely good looking girls, mostly its like average looking guy (even below average in height, 5-6 looks, somehow has the confidence and the means to attract women, and it is completely unintuitive in my mind, yet reality always shows me, that my previous view that only very lucky ones, tall ones attractive ones, get the best bite, and that was never the case atleast from my experience. I mean I would understand if mediocre looking guy pulls girls because he has lots of money or is a star, an actor or is very popular somewhere, I wonder how come then we see something very different in reality. I am sure even Truth Seeker could testify he has seen such things in this life not once not twice but many times, I am then wondering what is the ultimate factor here that that particular girl chooses that average guy over someone.

    So even if as we call the game of our life is rigged there is still some kind of mystery around it where you see people doing better than you despite seemingly having less money, not very attractive, maybe such relationship won’t last long or wont be fullfilling I do not know, but just really would like to get an opinion from Truth Seeker how does he see that, how to explain this particular phenomenon, average guy with way above average girl in terms of looks, how do they end up wanting to date each other.

    1. Facer

      -Guys with high endurance to rejection and keep trying till something happens (may fail or backfire)

      -Strategic exposure. Maybe their jobs, current life or circumstances allows to met a lot of people. Suddenly they have options, even good ones.

      -People tend to focus on exceptions. Achilles was recognized as someone brave and reckless. But i am sure there was soldiers more brave than him, people who had something valuable to fight, and no one knows who were those fckers. But since Achilles was the chad who won, everyone remember him (although Achilles never existed)

      -LUCKS

      – There still some beautiful women who feels insecure about themselves. And since competition is high, surely some guys will notice it, and take the chance. Idk, this happens a lot during adolescence.
      “just be first” theory taken to the extreme. Be the first ugly/bold/whatever guy who approach her in a certain way. But since women at certain age are approached in so many ways and levels…

      Also, you may consider… or wait… you are waiting for truthseeker answer. Sorry for that. I ll just write my name and press send to erase the message.

      1. Big Boy

        Yes, it’s more about strategic exposure and marketing. I’ll post at the bottom about the whole problem with the west (Truth is right, the leverage is that women don’t “need” you, because of abundance of money, jobs, and men most of whom are simps) is that the M:F ratio is high and the economy has been too good, women too spoiled. There are VERY few female 7s, and you can barely get youth from them, forget even purity for a second.

        I am easily upper 10% but am older now, and no one is worth it in the US – but it’s also near impossible to even be around that number of women. Plus, there is crowding from old women 30+, and simps, so women are bombarded and they purely have way too many options. Especially for having a very short window of attractiveness. It’s funny to think that women who are in their 30s think successful men in their 30s or 40s are even looking at them. 40 year old women are straight delusional at this point.

    2. Baron2Duke

      What do guys even define as a “beautiful’ girl? Are they basically the “hotties” who remind our porn-induced brain to have another fetishised fap, or the classic “Hepburnese” beauty?

      I guarantee that the latter ones are not seen with “average looking guys”. However, they are so rare you are lucky to even see them on the streets, and their lifestyle is also rather distanced from the plebeian everyday errands. Just go and stand in front of, for example, law or business school with the highest (or old money) status in your country and compare it to the “hottie-rich” environment of >95% of universities’ campuses. The “hotties” are surely more common due to higher prevalence of the use of cosmetics, cosmetic treatments and surgeries. But are they actually “beautiful”?

      It would be really interesting if TruthSeeker has any idea to write an article or two about this swaying perception of beauty.

  6. Vasile

    I am from Romania and can confirm that east-european women are as materialistic and selfish as western women. I think ukrainian girls are even worse. Same goes for Moldavian and even Polish. I’ve spoken with a lot and they all want rich handsome and resourceful men. And they fucking get them. I see them all the time driving premium SUVs and shopping in the mall at 11 am.
    So no pipe dreams of getting an east european unicorn, my western friends.

    1. Nick

      What do you think about south east Asia woman or just Asian women in general like it definitely seems the same with Latin America women and western women and Eastern Europe woman as you said dude

      1. Jose

        As someone who was born in Venezuela and lived most of my youth there, I can confirm Venezuelan women don’t seem to be that different from European and American ones nowadays. Back in my teenage years (in the 2000s) things like online dating and social media were still in their infancy, so the dating scene was definitely more mentally sane than today though. I don’t recall things such as widespread retarded trends about height for example, and I knew plenty of young men with average or even below average looks who dated women who were “above their league” thanks to their social skills alone.

        1. Facer

          As argentniancel… yep, there is no unicorns anywhere.
          For what I’ve read in forums (and discord recently) throughout my life, women from usa, some parts of europe, they don’t even bother to act nicely in front of providers. I never was in those countries, so i cant conclude anything.
          If that is true, i must say women from my country are so materialistic as everywhere, but at least they (act) are more sympathetically, and, some men can pretend they are loved. Its almost “love”… as long as there is money. Life was always a battle, in order to get some “atp” and feign we are hacking the entropy, so, in this current world, money is a temporary shortcut.
          Anyway, “looks” are still important, but apparently its worse in usa.

    2. Erasus

      Yeah I think that’s a valid observation, I think no matter where you look in the entire world, maybe in some cultures or families some girls grow up wanting more family values, but the way I see it its just ‘me myself and I’ now, everyone wants to benefit from someone, family values are not longer valued that much, and therefore if a lot of girls are not really up to have a family that lives like one loving unit, there is nothing much less to give them than money and other materialistic things, it takes away a part where you just don’t feel like a man, and there is no role for you in that relationship, this is mainly the reason I am single.

      But the biggest problem nowadays I see also is that a lot of men or boys just complain about how got hard to find someone, yet they step on their foot themselves by putting women on pedestal far too many times then wondering why it’s hard to stand out or why women don’t value average men anymore, because those average men worship them, promise infinite love, or materialistic things basically in exchange for sex, if men were less desperate, had moe integrity that too would be better, and I don’t really defend men and women anyone have some evilness and good things about, thats the way it is, men want to get into their pants, their second brain overpowers logic too quickly, women see that and take advantage of that very easily, the thirst in men is real, hence why tiktok or youtube shorts a lot of times are just thirst trap and nothing more, why, if there wouldn’t be a demand there wouldn’t be such supply, it tells us how world functions even if it doesn’t mimic entire reality it shows the minds of shallow people, but don’t let that believe you that there is no one with real values, soul and integrity, the problem is they might not be on the internet, or not at all where you look, the same way we don’t see disabled people in public who can’t walk, internet is all the ugliness and greed that human kind has to offer, with very few resources like this website for instance who doesn’t try to rip you off, or gain huge advantage by giving you ‘an answer’ to the problems.

      1. Jose

        100% agree with you. Even though I could probably find a partner if I put some time, money and effort (I’m financially stable and physically fit. My true main “weakness” is my introverted personality, and in some countries, my height as I’m 5,10), I ultimately prefer to remain single because I simply can’t stand the mindset of most women nowadays.

        Mainstream ideologies and entertainment have basically programmed modern women into thinking that men are dispensable and only good for occasional help and “fun”. You can see many TV shows and movies (especially English speaking ones) where the closest thing to a romantic interaction many women have are occasional one night stands with random good looking men they won’t see again. It reminds me of the cliche of a man looking to satiate sexual urges with an attractive sexual worker (the difference is the man will be ripped off for sure, while the woman will get what she wants for free as the man won’t have the audacity to charge her for the “services”).

        A wide segment of modern men are largely to blame for the circus human relationships are today as you point out. It is beyond me how some men are even willing to pay monthly subscriptions on certain platforms just for sexual photos/videos and attention from women who really don’t give a shit about them.

  7. Xyz

    Great post.

    Can you do one of your thoughts on losing the virginity before marriage? Should I wait as a 20 year old considering that it’s very likely that my wife won’t be virgin? (I’m catholic)

    1. Erasus

      Thank you for stoping by to comment and reply. Appreciate it, always nice to see like minded people here which I believe this world lacks, to use our own mind to make decisions and evaluate the world not formed by anyone’s different views but your own.

      Unfortunately loneliness and depression is sky high, billions of people in this world and probably even more personal problems in each and everyone person. Most internet content became short bursts of dopamine, that makes you feel good for very short amount of time, yet it makes you thirsty for more as if it’s like drinking sea water which has salts and dehydrating you instead of hydrating properly. Big parts of the world already achieved fairly convenient life this is what happens to many men not having purpose, direction, they have some money to spend or some time to kill to degrade themselves but doesn’t have time to improve themselves, because always most will go for the easiest bite, human wasn’t designed to have very frequent short bursts of dopamine like everyday , everything that is overdone is bad no matter what, and even sex or watching corn everyday is not healthy. Moderation and balance this is where I believe people never quite get it right, their bad habits become consistent while good habits are occasional. To me the universe is just probably stupid math statistics , there are billions of things that can go wrong and only very few things that can go right, the same way probably there are only very few people in the world that suit us as partners and mostly the most is just not for us.

      I don’t really hold myself as a victim it’s just that we live in this world, universe not by our choice, we are given the body and mind that we didn’t choose and everything else, you could say I look at it as I am a victim, really all of us didn’t choose to be here, but it is what it is, we all live in one planet together, we are expanding in numbers, it’s extremely difficult to be in unity with everyone to stop wars, to stop hating each other and all other things, but the problem is we affect one another, some people grow up reading seeing things on internet they shouldn’t while quickly dismissing not listening to the advice from their close ones, they would listen to some dating or fitness guru yet won’t use their critical thinking or parents advice which is much more careful and from the heart even if it’s not totally correct.

    2. Joseba

      You should wait but you can’t hold yourself in the next years and you will loose it with a one-night-stand.
      Most likely like most men.

  8. Joseph

    Could you Upload a post on your opinion about AI and ChatGPT recent boom?
    Thanks

  9. Pessimist

    NON author ,
    on another note this LGBTQI crap is in full momentum in society.
    I find it completely crazy, specifically in the workforce.
    I would like to hear your full view on this subject.

  10. Big Boy

    This is one of Truth Seeker’s all time great articles, for sure. The leverage reality is just abundance for women as I have said, which is a fake modern world that is finally running out of money, but that won’t help most guys who are currently 20-50. Women are in worse shape physically than ever (fat), have more opportunities to be backstopped by the government, a good enough job, there are too many simps, etc. Basically good women come down to controlled women who are encouraged to marry at young ages, are religious/pure, and who don’t have access easily to money. That isn’t the case now. We have a really high number of men, the population boom has been largely dysgenic, and resources as a result are not hard for women to get. That means they will have fun as long as possible and then try to scam idiots to marry them at older ages.

    How many female 6s do you even meet? Yet any guy who is a 6,7,8,9 will bang her. If you’re a good dude, you’d barely be satisfied with a 6, so are you going to commit? No, but she also has attention constantly from literally 1000s of guys.

    You have to get to places where women actually need you. As above, women are not really different anywhere in the world, what is different is the number of men around who are good looking, who have money, and if they can get a job and have material resources in their life. The west provides all of this to women, so they are naturally the worst.

    Plan, or act, accordingly.

    1. SimpLogic

      No, you’re mistaken about the “population boom” thing – the population is not booming, at all, at the current time. If you go into an environment with a locally high birth rate, you’ll see that young women are more abundant. No, the low birth rates are dropping all the time and this accounts almost 100% for the scarcity of young women. Believe it!

      Those running the US can still afford to pay women to do jobs that are inessential. That will change, but by that time, the white population will be tiny.

  11. SimpLogic

    Yeah, that fat pretty boy thing is hilarious! (happened to me many years ago) Yes, it can be extremely confusing, seeing women hit on you. If you’re not ready for it, it’s psychologically disconcerting and can lead to delusions.

    Unfortunately, our problems are far worse than delusional, entitled, fat, overpaid women and the difficulty of finding them.

    I’d disagree though with the bit about getting big. Not that you’ll get “big” the way the fake natties claim. Big enough for the doctor to say you’re “well-developed” – yes, you can be, without drugs, but not on a diet trying to focus on leanness.

    Yes, teen virgins exist and they can bizarrely be attracted to fat, morbidly obsese, middle aged (pushing 50 men). Don’t ask me to explain it. I can’t!

    So don’t blackpill too much. But overall, your point is solid. Unfortunately, most men aren’t equipped for philosophical resignation – especially when they need it the most – in the 20s.

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