Want some hard truths,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, fellas?
Even the so-called high-value men are rich cucks at the end of the day.
It’s For Her, Not For Him
You think the Ferrari’s for him?
That $10K watch?
The roided physique that cost him his balls?
The USD 500 fade haircut?
Bullshit. It’s for her. All of it. ALL OF IT.
Every drop of sweat, every click of the self-improvement podcast, every kale smoothie and business seminar—it’s just a dance to get noticed, to be chosen, to say – “Pick me!”
High-value men ain’t grinding for themselves—they’re just dressed-up junkies chasing female validation like it’s powdered heaven.
She blinks, he smiles. She ignores, he spirals. High-value, low dignity.
They’ll tell you they’ve transcended it, that they’ve “figured it out.” But you know what you hear when a man won’t shut up about how little he needs women?
You hear a man still haunted by them.
THAT APPLIES even to men like Andrew Tate and his wannabes.
The self-proclaimed kings, the bravado barons, the cigar-smoking success prophets—they talk big, but listen closely, really listen.
Their whole brand is a eulogy for the girl who rejected them in 2009.
Tate didn’t build an empire for himself. He built it to show her what she missed.
The sports cars, the yachts, the kickboxer bravado—none of it screams freedom.
It screams, “Look what you made me become.”
You can hear it when he talks about women like a battlefield, like a debt to be collected.
That isn’t detachment. That’s obsession dressed in Versace.
If you have the wisdom to see and hear, you’ll detect the tremor in the triumph. You’ll smell the revenge rotting beneath the “mindset.”
He doesn’t want to move on. He wants her to see.
Because she still lives in his head rent-free.
Not just her— all of them….
The exes. The girls who laughed. The ones who ghosted.
They sit in the back of his skull like judges at a trial, and no amount of cigar smoke or Instagram followers will shut them up.
Even the men who made it—especially the ones who made it—are still chasing a ghost in stilettos.
They think they’re kings. But kings don’t beg.
Kings rule. Quietly. Without needing eyes on the crown.
The House Always Wins; The Alpha Man Always Slaves
Just because he can get her doesn’t mean he owns the game.
That’s the big con. The grand illusion.
Like some poker player feeling good about winning a hand in a rigged casino.
Because before all the muscle, the Bugattis, the motivational drivel, the watch with a moon phase dial—he was soft. He was real.
An innocent boy with a pure heart. Naïve. Kind. Too kind. And that was the problem.
They didn’t want him.
They laughed. They ghosted. They said “you’re sweet, but…” and moved on to Chad 2.0.
So what did he do? He set himself on fire to become the man they showed they wanted.
He killed the soft boy. Buried the poetry. Choked the compassion.
Started lifting iron like he was trying to bench-press the rejection out of his memory.
He thought he was becoming stronger. But he was just getting better at bleeding.
He became what they wanted. And now they come.
But here’s the twist: he still didn’t win.
They did.
Because they reshaped him. They rewired him. They burned his old soul down and rebuilt him into something useful. Marketable. Consumable.
He thinks he’s on top. Thinks he’s picking them.
But he’s just the new brand of commodity—masculine by design, engineered in pain, programmed for performance.
And now the new women—the ones who didn’t even know him before the transformation—are the ones cashing in.
Extracting resources. Time, money, attention, validation.
The girls who broke him never returned, but they passed the baton.
The new ones didn’t have to do the damage. They just reap the rewards.
A generation of women benefitting from another generation’s rejection.
He was remodeled. Reprogrammed.
By women. For women.
And now he walks around like a lion—forgetting he was raised in an estrogen lab.
Forgetting that his “alpha” isn’t instinct. It’s a response.
A reaction to being told he wasn’t enough—until he became too much.
And when she decides she’s bored? When she finds a shinier toy?
He’s out—like yesterday’s crypto investment.
He’ll sit in his penthouse, wondering what went wrong, mistaking access for power.
Thinking, “I had her.”
But the truth is—she had him all along.
On a leash made of hormones and the fear of being alone. Wagging his tail, well-groomed, housebroken.
Because the house always wins.
And in this casino? The house is hers.
The Alpha Male is just the end product of thousands of little female rejections and criticisms. A Frankenstein stitched together by heartbreak and horniness.
And the worst part?
That innocent boy—the one with real feelings, the one who loved with his whole heart—
He’s dead.
Women killed him.
Not exactly maliciously. Just naturally. Like how fire burns wood. It’s just what it does.
So in the end—no matter how shredded he gets, how rich, how “top G” he pretends to be,,,,
He’s still a response. A puppet. A robot that some woman somewhere still controls via DMs.
Women rewrote his code until he became what they wanted him to be. And now he is just the boy that covers the criteria of his masters.
The slave paid to control the other slaves…
The More They Have, The More They Offer
Success breeds desperation in disguise.
But not just any desperation — the kind that only a woman’s silence can create.
The kind that grows in the cracks of a man’s soul when she looks right through him like he’s smoke.
He stacks money, muscle, status—like armor.
But underneath? It’s just a boy she didn’t want, still whispering, “Am I enough now?”
Now it’s overpriced dinners, luxury bags, trips to Rome just to see her smile for a second.
Not out of love—
Out of pain.
That specific ache only women can cause.
He’s not courting.
He’s bleeding with a smile in an expensive car.
And women?
They know.
They smell that wound under his cologne.
They don’t want the man buying the table—
They want the one too cold to care.
But he’s already handed himself over.
Not the body, not the wallet—
The heart she never asked for.
And that’s the tragedy.
He thinks he’s in control.
She’s already won.
Not just the new girl—
All of them.
The ones who turned him down.
The one who cheated.
The one who left without a word.
They made him this way.
And now he pays for it—
One sad, shiny gift at a time
The Game Is Rigged—And Men Lost the Lever
This whole thing? This dating “market”?
It ain’t a market anymore—it’s a clearance sale where the man pays, bleeds, and thanks her for the chance.
Men lost the leverage.
It’s gone. Voted out. Legally deleted.
It doesn’t matter who he is anymore.
Rich? She can take it with divorce papers and walk out with half, plus the house, plus the kids, plus a judge calling him “unstable” if he even raises his voice.
Broke? Doesn’t matter.
She’ll live without him. The government’s got her.
Free housing, child support, food stamps, praise for “doing it alone.”
Either way—she stays standing. He crawls.
Because women don’t chase anymore.
They choose.
They scroll, swipe, and select.
Men are the product now.
The alphas? Just shinier packages on the same shelf.
Six-foot jawline? Check.
Seven figures? Check.
Blue eyes? Check.
She’ll try it out, then move on like she’s changing phone cases.
You think that’s power?
That’s not masculinity—that’s marketing.
That’s the Rat King at the top of the sewer pile, crowned king of the cage, still trapped like the rest.
And don’t forget the state.
The system.
The so-called “neutral” machine.
It doesn’t give a damn about a man’s heartbreak.
It caters to her.
Why?
Because when it owns her, it owns the kids, the house, the money, and the narrative.
Control the women, and you control the future.
Control the men? No need. They’re already tamed by societal tricks.
He cries?
He’s weak.
He shouts?
He’s dangerous.
He leaves?
He’s a deadbeat.
It’s not a love story anymore.
It’s an extortion.
The “alpha”?
Just another piece in her puzzle.
Another fool who thinks being wanted equals being respected.
But the truth is—he’s just a well-trained performer in a game he never wanted to enter.
Good job…
The raw and painful truth.
P.S. Please don’t forget to respond to my question about your most recent book.”
What a great peice of literature.
100 % correct !
So well written.
Very powerful message.
Us men need to work on ourselves for ourselves.
For our mental health
For our physical health
That’s it !
It’s not us that should be changing to please others or fit in to a retarded society
This is the most BRUTAL BUT TRUE article ever written by man.
We are disposable to this sick society, whether we’re up or down.TruthSeeker said it well, out there everything is terror and misery.
What is the solution?
While reading the article, a man like Howard Roark from the book fountainhead written by Ayn Rand who lives by his own standards with an unshakeable integrity came to my mind when I read “too cold to care” part.
Also I believe being a man of god is the only winning strategy in a world which is created by god.
isnt being a man of god falling for the oldest scam to enslave people?
you wanna get out of slavery in the western world? well you cant really escape unless you start living in the woods, but even then you have a master (nature) which is more harsh, dangerous and unforgiving compared to the puppeteers in modern civilization, so its easier to stay there but simply ignore their shit, like Stop social media, find a hobby that gives you flow, reduce consume to a minimum, eat high quality food and stop seeking validation from the outside world.
God and religion is a great way to enslave people. Deceiving people used distorted religion as a tool throughout the history of the world. This does not mean God does not exist in my opinion. Through reading the word of God, from the holy books he sent, one can learn what this world is about and employ a winning strategy in here and afterlife.
Truthseeker, i read you since many years.
Dont get me wrong, imho you expose truth in many aspects and articles. Often my reactiom to that is a “i feel you bro” or “finally someone is putting it in clear words what i always suspected”. But sometimes i start to think you are man-child who never got over rejection and is trapped in some superficial incel thought carousel… like in this article.
i mean why would a grown up care what andre tate does or is? let him spend his wealth as he likes and yes maybe he is a slave as you descri e but nobody expects you to have the same behavior. They can only get your money when you show it off. Be more clever, hide the wealth yo have. And why would someone with a sane health play a rigged game like dating with such a morosity? If you take it not seriously, you can find a mate or maybe not. The truth is in the end you will anyways be alone (mentally) regardless if you have a gazing female mate or not but you need to understand that this clarity of being truly alone is also one of the greatest liberations and freedoms you can have in this life.
Read philosophers like Machiavelli, Jung, Nietzsche or Schopenhauer and get over that trauma. I presume you are also in your late thirties or fourties so its really time to drop the incel/redpill/mgtow/whatever mindset
I doubt he literally cares about Andrew Tate, but he most likely mentions him because he (unfortunately) is the most mainstream “manosphere” guru out there at this time.
In any case, I agree with you that it would be wise for TruthSeeker to move beyond this manosphere mindset/narrative and explore more independent lines of thought. I’ve seen some similar content creators who did it and it was for the best. I’m confident Truth can do it because, despite the trauma and pain he seems to hold, you can tell he is wiser than average by his writing (I’ve known many influencers from both sides of the ideological spectrum who are dumb as rocks, arrogant and superficial in comparison).
“i had to throw away ‘the book(s)’. You read it too many times…”
This is your best ever work. Nothing but truth whether people like it or not
Where are the solutions to these issues men face.
All I hear is negative stuff.
BTW I don’t disagree.
It’s getting worse every year.
We need solutions.
This requires a total government takeover where traditional family structures are enforced.
– Arranged marriage
– patriarchal system
– women are under the authority of a male figure: their father or brother of another male relative until they are under the authority of their husband.
nah, thats not only boring but also unachievable when everyday life is so easy.
Patriarchy needs some kind of leverage which is lost in modern times. Women are right when they say they dont need a man – men are only useful for masturbation nowadays.
We dug our own graves by making shit so easy and accessible
Didn’t feminism make a greater favor to men rather it did to women?
I mean, for me, feminism means liberation somehow, because I am not obligated to take care of a woman, right?
Yes The government, Elites, weak men contribute to this chaotic society.
It will change eventually but will take 2 or 3 generations to see the improvement.
Amazing
Mixed thoughts about this article.
On one hand, I think you hit the nail on the head with key conclusions such as why the current statu quo (the one of most Western countries at least) empowers women the unbalanced way it does. On the other, like Irrelevant points out, I feel you are doing it from the perspective of a man still bitter from bad dating experiences and trapped in a negative incel-like thought loop.
It’s not easy, but I suggest you to reflect and seek to get past that kind of mindset because it does more harm than good. Not for your audience, but for yourself.
There is no solution. The advanced first world slowly disappears, and the third world will take over. The process is same as human caused climate change. Unstoppable, we have to adapt individually as possible, bacause there is no magic solution, and the political promises and movements are the most worthless.
Strange that you can’t see that the great cunt correction is coming. The black Monday for pussy is fast approaching.
Near term:
AI will displace mostly women from the workforce.
AI will destroy the female sex economy i.e. OF. (It’s already starting to happen)
MGTOW mindset is pretty common in Gen Z i.e. “hustle” culture or “be a top G” is lol fuel for them (male labor force participation is at Great Depression levels by some metrics)
Dating apps are slowly dying and the pending lawsuit may kill them for good
Further future:
Synthetic gamates and artificial wombs could be a total wrap on feminism.
Feminism killed an entire generation of men!
This article is dangerous because it has some truth mixed in mostly with disdain, and worse conclusions than usual from the likes of Truth, who is usually 95% on, if not 100%, with his takes. I can prove it too = think of the number of women left behind because of their destruction and support, very few make good on getting a return from the hypergamy. Yes they controlled a lot of the future due to controlling women, but that was only in the time of money printing and ease of life, with propaganda: until the money printer runs out, which is happening as we write.
God was a man and didn’t have kids, but he had eternal things and love for people, which is what will last. The things of this world will not, so lamenting too much about them will lead nowhere. I find it silly to have been so successful only to have to go to other countries to find any sort of suitable woman to date or marry, but they, that’s what I inherited. Now, just build in the best way you can, help others along the way, and enjoy the freedom. While it sucks to build a good life and not be able to share it with a good woman, what’s worse? Making the mistake of trying to do that and having it taken all away by the demons of modernity, the sickos of lawfare and God is the .gov.
Recognize what’s’ coming and adapt. It’s a new monetary system. The old world of cheats and liars is at wick’s end.
God is a man?
God is not of any Earthly gender, friend, and to my mind, reducing God to a gender is a form of blasphemy, which I know you don’t mean to do. God is not a kindly, wise old man with a white beard.
God is referred to as “He” because God needs a subject pronoun in English. God is given the male subject pronoun in the same way a table is given the female subject pronoun in the Latin languages – for expediency. No more, no less.
A good day to you, Sir.
Outstanding! A real punch in the gut. One of the best articles I’ve ever read. Greetings from Brazil and thank you very much for sharing these pearls of wisdom.
I don’t totally agree with the women hating, incel vibe. I mean, I get it, I suppose. Rejection sucks. Past rejection lingers. But people still pair up and get married, as far as I know. So what’s up with that? Does that mean any modern marriage or relationship is just a big scam where the woman holds the power and the guy had to aquire wealth, or use steroids, or whatever just to get the girl? I think it’s more likely that people tend to pair up with like people. “6’s” usually pair up with “5’s” through “7’s” and “9’s” usually pair up with “8’s” through “10’s”, and so on. Your number is assigned by genetics (looks), circumstances (wealth), etc. It has never been like the movies where the nerd gets the cheerleader or the convenience store clerk gets the millionaire, and it never will be nor was intended to be. You generally don’t see a good looking guy with a stone cold ugly female, and vice versa. Sure, you might see a good looking fella with a sugar mama or a hot chick with a rich, balding fat dude, but those are sort of outliers and they’re artificial relationships.
One question I have. If the author was rejected 1,000 times (or whatever), did he never reject a female? Passing over a female and not contacting them on a dating site because they’re less than whatever ideal you have in your head is rejection too. I don’t know, I haven’t dated since like 2000 (married). I rejected a few. I got rejected by more, but still. Do those girls I rejected “hold all the power”?
The detail to take into account isn’t whether one rejects or not. Generally, and more than usual today, modern man must settle for the leftovers of society. That is to say: and honestly, the only thing the average man who excels can fish for or “buy”(and if he does, barely surviving each month) are the crumbs and leftovers of society:
Ugly women,
Fat women,
Poor women,
Women with a high sexual orientation,
Immoral and liberal women,
Arrogant women,
Infertile women,
Women of low genetic standing,
Psychologically exhausted women,
Masculinized women,
Women without homemaking skills,
Women without loving affection.
But the average man cannot ask,
cannot demand,
cannot have requirements,
cannot have criteria,
cannot decide,
cannot think,
cannot act,
cannot choose,
cannot have,
cannot be for himself.
He must kneel and ask for forgiveness or feel guilty if he wants to prove he is a man.
Only conform, keep quiet, remain silent and be ordered by a black hole system.
Who deems what the “leftovers of society” are? If you are the one doing the judging, do you have any of the negative traits that you described in any form? Are you relatively poor, a little too fat, too skinny, have a big nose, etc., etc.? Do you make a habit of watching porn, but judge the women with the “high sexual orientation”? Do you display any arrogance at all in your judgement of all of the women that you deem unworthy of your companionship? Obviously not all men must settle for the leftovers of society because there’s about a one to one ratio of males to females on the planet – so the math does not work. How do you know that you are not a level 6 dude with social media driven expectations to find a level 9 lady? A guy has to be honest with himself in that regard. That’s all I’m trying to say.
Look, things may be different now. I’m sure they are. I haven’t dated in over 20 years. But, looking back at my younger self, I can see traits in my younger self that were pretty unattractive. I was emotionally immature and a little narcissistic, to be totally honest – and I can’t help but see a little bit of that here in the article. One thing that really helped me, is that I actually made friends with a female in college. I had zero attraction to her. She was a friend of a girl that I had dated (who eventually rejected me, but I digress). We hung out quite a bit during my last year or two of college. Oddly enough, I didn’t recognize that she was attracted to me (several of my friends had told me), and I eventually wound up rejecting her when she wrote her true feelings down in a letter to me right before I graduated. Did she dwell on the hurt and rejection for years afterward like the author seems to do or like I did with some of my rejections? I hope not, and I sort of doubt it.
Rejection sucks. Loneliness sucks. Wanting what you do not have sucks. But if you dwell on these things, you’re going to develop a personality that is not attractive, and you might wind up with a self fulfilling prophecy of relationship doom and gloom. Good luck, Intu (and Truthseeker).
Like everyone is different but I wood befer to just live offgird with my dogs and ai and robots and just work in my business and do my hobbies that bring me joy no drama no chaos just peace real financial independence is not to be a millionaire or billionaire just peace and freedom and your good to go and to keep learning and evolving and adapting intill I pass away
There is Truth here but I don’t fully agree with all the connections being made. Yes, it’s possible that Tate and his ilk of alpha male scam artists are all formed from this same base of deeply wounding rejection. But, it may have nothing to do with that. These guys, like others on social media, are simply con men. They do what they do because it’s the best way that they know to make money. These people don’t have other marketable skills or if they do, they have chosen this path because they see it as more profitable. It’s simple business. Tate could equally likely be gay, asexual or just some rich spoiled kid who wanted to run a scam. I actually don’t know anything about him other than the image that he projects.
Women need men and men need women and that’s the way it’s been since time immemorial. No social media or social movement can alter that.
What social media CAN do and often does, especially to those susceptible to some of these scam artists, is warp a person’s mind about their own self-worth and the priorities that they should have in life.
“Acquiring” women should not be the priority for a man in any sane state of mind. That is to say, needless and pointless dating or promiscuity where no real and deep (multilayered, not just sexual) attraction exists is a path to nowhere good. Instead, focus on being the person that you want to be for yourself and having the things that actually interest you to possess. Personally, I’d love to have a Ferrari since I’m car guy and I couldn’t care less what anyone would think, male or female. Of course, I’d get an older model with a manual transmission. And I’d never take it somewhere just to show off. I’d actually rather people not know about it since that makes it less of a target for theft. So, is that car not just for me? I think it is.
When seeking a partner, focus on true long-term compatibility. Be open and honest with them about who you are, what you think and want and ask them to do the same. Be prepared to reject someone who is not compatible with you and don’t be surprised when you are rejected by someone who finds you not to their liking. It’s pretty simple and there’s not very much to be depressed over.
100% agree with you. As long as you are healthy and have a a source of income as honest as possible (not parasitic or harmful to others) allowing you to live well, things like chasing women are completely optional and you shouldn’t give a f**ck about what others think about you (especially if they are strangers power tripping on social media).
Another example similar to that of the Ferrari is working out. Sure, you might start training when you are young just for the naive prospect of becoming lean/jacked to attract women, but eventually you do it because you actually feel good with yourself and appreciate the health benefits staying fit brings.
It’s important to note though that most people who fall for online scam artists do it as a side effect of how ruthless and malicious many “normies” (people who blindly follow whatever the social statu quo dictates) can be to those who don’t fit in the narrative for whatever reason, especially on the Internet. The misfits see in these drifters the hope of a helping hand that will give them the tools and power they lack to finally be respected by others. If you don’t have family members and friends you can trust and rely on for guidance when you are in a dark place, it is even easier to take a wrong path in life.
Jose, you hit the nail on the head. People who are secure in themselves, their beliefs and their ways of life are almost never the victims of these scam artists. Those with a solid familial and social support group are also very unlikely to fall for it. The scammers target the vulnerable who are seeking acceptance from society and probably have not gotten any from their parents and friends growing up.
Yes Dan, but there is a minority of men that isn’t small that is very successful and in good physical shape, even tall, etc. I’m one of them. The issue is that there are barely any 6s, certainly only a small number of 7s and higher, and the social taboo is such that you will get blown up in the west for trying to go out with a woman 10+ years younger, if you can even meet her socially. In that calculator thing, I’m easily in the crazy small % of possible men for women (<.02%) but where am I going to meet a woman who can have a family and is attractive? For my money, being close to 40, in can only happen in foreign countries, as those are the only ones open to it. And those also tend to not be fat.
I agree with you that modern Western anti-family values have made dating harder. It’s just the this article draws some connections that I don’t necessarily think are valid (ie everything you own and do is for the sake of women) and misses others that are relevant and important (ie the scam artists are primarily driven by money, not some deep-seated rejection wounds). You and I are similar in many ways based on your comment and sadly I don’t have any real answers for you. Personally, I don’t think there is anything wrong with dating someone significantly younger assuming they are a fully formed adult. Nor is there anything wrong with seeking romantic connections abroad assuming you’re not getting scammed or taking advantage of someone. I would recommend getting rid of social media since most of the people who will “blow you up” over these things are only keyboard warriors.
Yes, it seems the only option at this point, to go overseas where people will either accept age gaps and need men, or you can at least get better behaved women. Perhaps the family things and legacy won’t work out, who knows. But I do know that another part of not dealing with older women is that they have less energy to raise the kids, to boot, if you do decide to go that route. I’m not sure why people don’t understand any of this basic stuff. The society is much to gynocentric. What does a man get who has his stuff together and guarantees the future of a woman? He deserves a lot in my view. I don’t see the ROI, so like most others, I’ll leave the old and fat women here where they can figure out by themselves how working ain’t no fun. We tried to tell them, but hey, I guess most normies have to experience things instead of listening to the wise.
Friend , respectfully, you aren’t quite there yet. If you were, you wouldn’t give a fuck about the social taboo. I’m 47, I was married 18 years to a woman 3 years older, I have a 17 yo daughter who lives with me full time since her mother handed her over to me because I am the more competent parent. I have a PhD and I am top 20% income earner in my country. I have the body of a 25 year old and the face of a handsome 35 year old. The last woman I dated was 26 and gorgeous and if it had worked out, I would have been ok to have another child with her, why not, what else is more meaningful and what else am
I going to do with the rest of my life. I don’t give a fuck what people think. She was 21 years younger than me and our child would have been beautiful. You are 40 and doing well and look good. Any woman over 23 is fine for you if your intentions are pure and well meaning . Seriously. Fuck the taboo and fuck the judgement. This only comes from people who do not have this as an option. If I met a 23 yo tomorrow who was into me and wanted to have my babies I would give them to her and look after her and think nothing of it.
Nice ChatGPT article. And dont even deny it. It reeks of ChatGPT.
Some truth, but not total truth. Honestly, as a 47 year old dude whom time has been kind to (once or twice a month someone will guess me as 35-39), who was married for 17 years and has been divorced for 5, who is basically a single parent to a 17 yo daughter but who could be convinced that to have more children with the right woman, a guy who doesn’t really have much trouble attracting much younger women, who is top 1% education and top 15% income, I can say, finally, at 47……I don’t give a fuck what any woman thinks of me. I really don’t. With a few exceptions, she isn’t my equal and she isn’t fit to assess my value. She can make up for that by being appreciative, easy going, somewhat intelligent, youthful, respectful and good company. How hard is that? Otherwise everything I do is for myself and my daughter.
Yes, and this is what the society has become since the destruction of the family took place. I agree with almost all that you guys say, since I’m one who is secure and realizes the insecurity is what makes the classic normie who can’t think, and worries far too much about relatively meaningless things and other people’s thoughts on them and the world. The problem is that women are more susceptible to most things AND they have a short window of attractiveness, so if you get them on other tracks and trains of thought (university, debt, job, etc) instead of becoming wives and mothers, it will by definition ruin family formation and even above average men’s reasons for working and sharing that success.
I never worried about much of the things they claim about women that make them important at all, because it’s quite clear, they can’t assess basically anything but base (dark triad) high time preference attraction. Certainly not “what works” – in the long run, since that is their goal for real happiness and fulfillment. The issue is that the world is too easy for MOST and that hurts women the most because to be honest, they never really had to work hard in the first place, especially if they were very good looking at all. Now they just stretch it to have MORE fun and give a guy breadcrumbs later when less attractive. Like Tim said, a woman can’t discern how much I make vs a loser in debt, she has no idea what my net worth is, she has zero intuition about a man’s character (not all but 99%), and most of them overestimate their value (in the west most are fat and rate themselves at LEAST 2 points higher than they are). The only thing I see objective in women is youth and attractiveness/symmetry/beauty. For a man there are like 5 things. But if we’re honest, there are tons of men crowding the whole picture out, simping for women, and no one restricts women or tells them the truth. With no worries, they can seek physical attractiveness as their #1 priority now, since they are backstopped by mom, dad, government, courts, etc. They don’t NEED men – the entire key. Women are lazy, don’t forget. If you give them more, the less they’ll do, exponentially. Now we’re headed in the other direction because women are just on a spectrum of whoredom at this point, which is why no man with any success or sanity would reward a woman, the few that are even close to above average or young, which is VERY few.
Friend, as a guy who’s been around a long time, I think you are a little too black pilled, and I think this worldview will hurt you and you will limit your own opportunities by thinking like this
First, please don’t compare yourself to me, it’s not a fair comparison. I’m 47 and I was married for a very long time and I already have a child, so at this point in my life, I am not subject to the same pressures that other men and women are when it comes to finding a partner.
But this gives me a unique perspective because I was in a good, functioning relationship for a very long time and now I’m back in the dating world after 20 years. You have to realise that people who are in happy relationships and are generally happy with their lives do not come onto the Internet to argue with people for hours on end about how good their life is. They’re too busy enjoying their lives. The perspective presented on this website, and this is one of the better ones, is still biased and skewed and will warp your thinking if it is the only information you have. I’m here because I enjoy TS’s style of writing and he raises some interesting points and I sense high intelligence behind his words, but I don’t agree with everything he says and some of what he writes is just downright fucking depressing and reflects the worldview of a person who has been unsuccessful in certain areas of life (which he acknowledges) – but it’s his site, that’s his prerogative.
You and others have to remember that average people, average women are by definition average, and that 50% of women (and men) are below average in some things – looks, intelligence, decency, whatever. Read that again.
What this means is that there are good women out there but they are drowned out by the madding crowd and you have to find them. They will not fall into your lap. They’re not showing their tits all over social media. I have several young women 18 to 25 as nieces and a 17-year-old daughter. My daughter and her 18-year-old cousin have never had boyfriends, all of these girls social media is set to private, one of them has a long-term partner who is a very average but decent dude; there are no pictures of them in bikinis and they are all studying to become nurses or whatever, and the ones that are over 20 are thinking about families.
I won’t bullshit you, it absolutely gets harder over 25 and then harder again over 30. Almost all of the good women have been married by then. Once you get into the market of women over 30, I recommend you start thinking about a woman who was married for a long time and got divorced and maybe has one child. You have to be open-minded because this is likely to be a very decent woman. You may be her second or third partner and she has demonstrated that she can commit to long-term relationships. She will not have a revolving door of men in and out of her bedroom because like me, she knows what a good relationship looks like and she will wait for it. And she will probably be open to having another child with you. Who cares that she already has a child? If she was married for five or more years, it’s very likely the child will be well-adjusted and already have a good father in the picture.
Just something to think about. Bye for now.
Thanks for your unique and grounded stance throughout this thread Tim. It brings good counterpoints to the overcynical and pessimistic views (even if there are some uncomfortable truths in them) of TruthSeeker and some followers of the blog.
Like you, I also follow this site because I think TS is a genuinely good writer and thinker, but you can feel his negative bias on certain topics (like this one). IMO, holding resentment and seeing all women with contempt feels as unfair and intellectually dishonest as when hard-core feminists do the same with men (especially those of a specific ethnicity) as a whole.
If you look beyond social media and dating sites (which attract the worst possible types of people regardless of the gender anyway), you can find objectively good and principled women. The catch, as you point out, is that most already find a good and stable partner before their mid 20s in their social circles. This is precisely because men in those circles find them worth engaging with and don’t miss the chance to approach them.
I believe a man should not fully close himself to the idea of dating, but he should stay away from clearly awful mediums like dating apps and avoid forms of superficial male hypergamy (such as adamantly refusing to date single mothers or women in their 30s even if they seem completely fine otherwise). Note that I say date, not marry (which requires much more insight and is a decision to not be taken lightly).
At the end of the day, one has to learn to embrace the value of being alone because you might not find “love” as it is something highly based on chance. And if you do find it, it might not last for too long or even bring you more pain than good if you chose wrong. It’s definitely better to be alone than in bad company.
And yeah, Tate and all those douche bags, their *entire lives* revolve around women in one form or another. Whatever they’re saying, just listen to what they are talking about. . Women this women that. Talking about women 80% of the time.
Yeah, they are totally obsessed with them. They claim women are unimportant to them, yet their whole live revolves around female validation. The Tate brothers are just another victim of a feminised society and a mother that neglected them.
Am I the only person who has a problem with the use of the word “reject” to describe someone politely declining to go on a date or have sex with another person?
It’s not just exaggerated, it’s plain wrong. The person was not “rejected” as a human being.
And I think it’s actually harmful, because it 1) makes the person who said a polite “no thanks” sound like a bad person, when they didn’t ask to (and presumably did not want to) make this decision, it was put upon them; and 2) it makes the person who asked and got a polite “no thanks” feel disproportionately bad compared to what actually happened, because the word they have been conditioned to use to describe what happened to them sound 10 times worse than “I asked and got a polite no thanks” which would be the healthier way of looking at it.
Just my thoughts
Polite or not, reject is reject. You can call it soft reject if it makes you feel better.
Hmmm. I’m not arguing that using the word is incorrect in this context; it isn’t. One could liken it to being “rejected” at a job interview, I understand that.
Yes, fundamentally, it makes me “feel better” to call it something else, but that isn’t necessarily a bad thing or a snowflake thing if the word we are using is inappropriately harsh. It’s a matter of potency and magnitude. If using the word “rejected” is too harsh for the context (which is what I’m suggesting), then of course I will feel better if a more appropriate word is used, but that’s simply because it’s a more appropriate word.
Is it more or less correct to say your mother and your father “f&*ked” in order to conceive you, or that they “had sexual intercourse”? Is it more or less correct to say that they “had sexual intercourse” or that they “made love”? All three are correct, but one could rank them in order from most to least offensive and most to least appropriate with no real loss of “sense” or “correctness” – we all know what they did.
I know i won’t change your mind, but it’s something to consider.
I have found that self professing prophecy’s for my self like I am going to screw up somehow and my Wife will get Mad at me to happens just as such unless I admit to myself I am ok if that happens before or during. It helps me deal with my fear those things happening and be more mindful, less anxious and less irritable.
Rejection Does suck! My point is to get past Rejection or the fear and anger around it, being ok with it could help. Whom ever you go on a date with should defiantly appreciate if one is are more mindful, not as anxious and irritable.
Your content is so awful you must be jewish.