You’ve probably heard the saying: “The world today is so dynamic. It changes every minute.”
Except it doesn’t. The world is frozen, especially when it comes to social dynamics.
Sometimes I would read a forum topic and check the date only to see that it’s from 2009 or even earlier.
Guess, what? The info is still relevant. I can give you multiple examples.
It’s the same old schema.
Claim natty – sell powders – make money
Go to the first posts of NoN exposing the big names of those times. Those posts were written 9 years ago.
Fast forward to today…what are people talking about? Liver King who unsurprisingly was pinning hard. (Can you believe it? lol)
Same game, different players.
If you go to a dating forum or subreddit (e.g., r/tinder, r/dating…etc.), you will see that people are discussing the same old problems that men and women have been experiencing for over a decade now. (e.g., How quickly should I text her?…etc.)
The new era began when the smartphone was born. The appearance of dating apps solidified it.
Of course, there were earlier indications of what will come around the birth of MySpace and then Facebook.
Ultimately, social media are a larger tool that has a dating function too. What is the motto of social media? Connecting people. Right?
If you’re connecting people, you have the basis for a dating app. Period.
The pocket computer a.k.a. smartphone and dating apps just streamlined the process and made it a lot easier for women to get their catalog of top men.
The top men liked the game and decided to play too. Add a sprinkle of feminism, and you have a society made of women “finding themselves” via the exploration of hot men’s bodies.
Ultimately, all the problems that the dating world faces today were present 10+ years ago and nothing has improved at all. The only thing that changes are the apps a.k.a. the means of communication.
Here’s modern dating in a nutshell:
- People meet online
- People play texting games (“I will leave him on seen/delivered for a couple of days to see what that will trigger.”)
- People chat a lot but rarely meet in person
- Even if people go on a first date, they rarely have a second.
- Everyone is disappointed. Everyone complains. Everyone is miserable.
- Non-stop ghosting.
- People do random hookups here and there.
- Most men have to turn the Internet upside down to secure a date.
- Most people are functionally single despite all the chatting and weird first dates.
- Scammers constantly sell “miracle” programs that are meant to help the average dude get more women.
Nowadays everybody is talking about Andrew Tate. Men say he changed their lives. And he probably did one way or another.
But what if I tell you that there were Andrew Tates long before him?
What is the blueprint/solution of Andrew Tate for the male drama?
- Make money via some “high IQ” online thingy (Don’t follow a traditional career as it’s for losers who will never make enough money.)
- Go to the gym
- Follow the red pill in dating
- Be stoic, never complain…etc.
I can see why some 20y.o. dude would consider this schema revolutionary, but people like me remember the original architects.
Some of you are probably familiar with Victor Pride from boldanddetermined.com.
The site is now closed as he became a devoted Christian in 2020, labeled his site the work of the devil, and ghosted the world. No one knows where he is right now as he has zero online presence.
Victor Pride was a mini Andrew Tate and his site goes back a decade before Andrew Tate’s rise.
The tenants of BoldAndDetermined.com were:
- Make money from a blog, YT channel (Learn how by purchasing an e-book.)
- Behave like a red-pilled alpha
- Move abroad to get the most of your currency and use your status on local women
- Go to the gym
Just like Andrew Tate, Victor Pride was making money selling his own products (books, supplements…etc.) which were supposed to turn boys into men.
Andrew Tate is not saying anything that’s fundamentally different from B&D. The only difference is the scale of popularity and income.
Victor Pride had millions. Andrew Tate has billions. Other than that the message and the overall structure are the same.
Also, Victor Pride actively wanted more privacy and didn’t do any advertising. He wanted people to organically find his website through Google by searching for a problem. (It’s also worth mentioning that there was no Tik Tok at the time.)
Of course, Victor Pride wasn’t the only one. The whole 2010 manosphere was built on the same principles, namely:
- Tell men that they’re in a bad position. Paint their problems.
- Present yourself as someone who has overcome those problems (you’ve found the hack)
- Sell them a manual on how to do the same
- Make the individual believe that every shortcoming can be overcome with enough hard work.
I am not saying that similar material can’t be useful. It has its value. I am simply pointing out that the “cure” hasn’t solved the problem so far and probably never will because it treats symptoms.
Men had Pride’s guidelines for years, and I am certain that many pupils followed them.
Yet the current situation is vastly identical.
If Pride was to revive his blog, his articles wouldn’t be outdated.
What does that tell you?
Nothing has changed. The world is spinning its wheels.
I always laugh in a sad manner when people claim that the manosphere figures are making a big difference by exposing the problem.
Dudes, let’s get real.
The first and primary reason why those alpha figures are bothering you is that you’re a potential client.
Second, exposing the problem does not equal solving the problem. People have been exposing the banking system for years and look how much it changed. In the last few years, the entire world printed more money than ever before.
So, what if more people know about the large male problems?
Will more women swipe right on you because Andrew Tate is blowing up their feed with jump-cut videos?
Will the court treat men better in a divorce case?
Will women treat you better on a date?
Will you face less competition from other men?
Will women be more compassionate?
No. Even the so-called red-pilled women still behave like all the rest when the cameras aren’t working.
The only value that you get is hearing someone say what you already know and think.
Why aren’t those solutions working?
Because they treat the symptoms rather than the cause and consequently work only for a minority of men rather than the average guy.
If a solution doesn’t work for the majority of average men, then it is not a solution to a problem that average men face.
Example: Women want ultra-hot, successful men. Men try to become hot and successful.
Let’s hypothetically say that a critical mass of average men satisfies the hot and successful standards. That is practically impossible, but let’s pretend that it’s not.
What will happen is this: the new hot men will quickly become the new average men, and women will once again want more. (Remember: Women always want more and different.)
For example, if all men reach a six-figure income, then a six-figure income will mean nothing.
The reason for the dating problem is not the lack of income but the lack of values and direction in western societies.
How come people in other parts of the world have no problem marrying and having children with small salaries, but Europeans and their descendants are somehow convinced that you need to be a millionaire to have a kid?
Your father and grandfathers didn’t have to play this stupid game, at least not to the same degree. More than likely they had an average job and married an average woman with fewer problems.
Why? Because that was the climate back then. You go on a few dates with a woman and then you marry her. You didn’t have to go on a date with half the town to find someone.
People are simply lost inside. Until that’s fixed, no amount of money printing and shallow self-improvement will fix the problem.
Also, don’t forget that there are many guys who have the whole package (looks + money) and still suffer.
The “alpha solution” to money generation isn’t really a solution for the average guy.
Imagine this. Everyone quits their job to start some online thingy (blog…etc.) to make money. If that happens, the economy will crash.
If people are poor, that should be addressed as a whole rather than by creating some scheme that will by definition work only for a few individuals.
The above may seem a little too complex and untidy. So, I will give you a simple example.
Imagine that there is insane inflation and eventually a box of 10 eggs reaches 1000 bucks.
Average people would go to the supermarket and state: “Lol. That’s really expensive.”
Out of somewhere, a Redpill Alpha dude says: “It’s not expensive, you’re just poor. Last afternoon, I bought a Lambo because I was bored. Wanna learn how? Just follow my steps.”
Maybe a few men will become rich enough not to care that 10 eggs cost 1000 bucks, but there isn’t enough room for all average men in that scheme by definition.
Or in other words, even if all men work just as hard, most will not succeed because there aren’t enough positions that give you the needed leverage for similar money printing.
The eggs example can be used for women too.
Imagine this: 100 average men try to get 1 average girl and fail. She rejects all of them.
Out of somewhere, Redpill Alfa Dude says: “Just gain the status of a Saudi Arabia prince, and she will be yours.”
It’s obvious why this will not work as a mass solution.
It’s almost criminal to make men reach level 99 to get a woman that’s not even on level 5.
Furthermore, this type of thinking creates insane social imbalances leaving the vast majority of men frustrated and with nothing.
The only solutions that will EVER work are those that do not play the game that created the problem in the first place.
Truth be told, humanity needs to go back in its social dynamics to go further. The current momentum is leading to nothing but crisis after crisis.