Are Men Taking Steroids ALPHA or BETA?

| by Truth Seeker |

Once upon a time, there was a lion pack of six known as the Mapogo lions. They were all brothers and dominated their territory like no one has ever done. You can think of them as villains in a Western wrecking a town and taking over.

At the beginning, the leader of the pride was Makhulu – a dark mane alpha lion making the decisions. His brother, Mr. T was the most rebellious of them all. He couldn’t accept the authority of Makhulu and had to leave the pride. He took his bro for life, Kinky Tale, on the mission and ruled over another region.

In the lion family tree, there’s no place for step kids. When a male lion scares off the previous leader of a pride – he kills his cubs. Lions would rather go extinct than raise some other guy’s offspring. Now, compare that to the mindset of the modern males who lead polyamorous relationships and watch their girlfriends get sexed by other men to realize how beta we have become.

Mr. T a.k.a. Satan was the most vicious on the block. He would not only kill the cubs of his predecessor but also eat them. He was also known to murder lionesses if they weren’t submissive enough.

Mr.T was not the prettiest of the group nor the strongest. Both of his brothers, Pretty Boy and Makhulu, had defeated him in a fight.  Nonetheless, his desire to dominate was above all else. He accomplished his goal with the help of his brother Kinky Tale.

Their reign, however, came to an end when a pack of four strong lions infiltrated their territory and eliminated Kinky Tale. After the defeat, Mr. T went back to his other four brothers. They accepted him, even Makhulu. One would think that Mr. T would become mellow, but he didn’t. He killed the children of his brothers and started to dominate the pride.

In the end, a pack of younger lions from another pride attacked Mr. T and his brothers. Makhulu was too old to fight and Pretty boy was injured. The invaders singled out Mr. T. They were going to kill him. It was 100% certain. But even in his last battle, he was an alpha. His rear legs were paralyzed and four lions were biting him periodically. He was still roaring – not crying.

Many consider Mr. T the most alpha lion that has ever been documented while others think he was a psychopath. He was both.

Can we extract the alpha traits of a lion and apply them to men? Maybe in some other era, the answer would be yes. Today, that’s not the case because we are playing a different game.

People live in a society that resembles a farm. We are not wild animals anymore. We have been domesticated. Transforming into a savage lion will not give you the status you would like. The play is more complicated.

For us, it is more important to appear a certain way rather than to be that way in reality. In the human world, you can look like an alpha and be accepted as such without actually carrying the internal routing of one. That cannot happen in the animal kingdom. You either deliver or you don’t.

Many steroid users seem to be the epitome of an alpha bro. After all, anabolic steroids enhance the vast majority of external male qualities – strength, muscle mass, assertiveness…etc.  Yet there are many roiders who live in the body of an alpha without being one. This is precisely why many muscular dudes give vibes of insecurity and low self-esteem – they are faking their status and still lack the necessary inner strength. They count on external admiration to carry themselves through life.

Another important factor in human society is how successful you are at playing the economic game, especially if you are a male. The world hates men without money. You are considered a loser who should kill himself. Of course, people would react negatively to this statement, but those reactions mean absolutely nothing. Look at the actions. The average human would certainly not classify a beggar as an alpha.

For that reason, many rich men can also be considered alpha despite holding a series of beta tendencies inside of them.

What is the driving force to take steroids?

To change. To enhance yourself and become something that you otherwise could never be. By introducing the needle to your life, you are admitting that your natural self is not enough and you have to amplify yourself with the help of performance enhancers. If you believed that you are good enough as it is, you wouldn’t feel a need to change your hormonal profile. You would just live.

Men do not take steroids for fun. Men do it because they understand that this is the price to obtain an extraterrestrial physique. It’s a sacrifice. Nobody would inject if it was possible to get as big naturally. If squats were as good as tren, everybody would be squatting day and night. But this isn’t the case. Reality is different and we can’t do absolutely anything to change it. The road to huge massive muscles includes steroids.

Why would someone want to obtain the muscular look? Two reasons – domination and physical attractiveness. That’s the truth. Health is not on the motivation list.

The pinners are not doing it just for themselves. They are molding into a shape that will hopefully trigger a certain pallet of emotions within other people. This raises the question – are roiders alpha if they are willing to put their balls on the line for others’ approval?

By definition, an alpha does not change for anyone. You think Mr. T cared that he was arguably the ugliest among his brothers? Would he have taken steroids to become even more intimidating? It’s a 50/50 situation. On one side, his ego was too massive to let him think that he wasn’t enough as it is. On the other, his desire to be the best was too big to let him overlook a chance to become even stronger. Guess, what? He is alpha in both situations. Through his filter, both decisions have alpha traits.

The same applies to people. Some men who refuse to take steroids are indeed alpha. They don’t see a need to change themselves so drastically to obtain a certain look and keep living the way nature intended for them. Others take steroids not because they are total losers without them but because their drive to become even more dominating is too high.

There are also those who refuse to take steroids not because they are too alpha and have a high self-esteem but due to fear and overthinking. Of course, there are many “betas” among the needle samurai too. Those would be the men who take steroids to fake an alpha status while remaining more beta than a kid crying over the color of a phone.

Which group is dominant among the steroid users? I think it’s the fakers. Most people who take steroids do not feel alpha enough in their default state and look for a way to obtain a more attractive envelope.

Which group is prominent among naturals? I doubt it’s the one made of people who feel fine in their own skin. Given a chance most natural lifters would be bigger. It just happens that most don’t want to bother with steroids due to the complexity of the regimes and the possible side effects. It’s not that naturals see themselves as super complete. We just want to play it safe.

Conclusion: Alphas form the minority rather than the majority in both groups.

The Other Definition of Alpha

In some cases, alpha is considered whatever’s attractive to women. The pick-up community has certainly embraced this definition. They want to turn you into an alpha boy because this is considered the key to female attention in all of its forms. If women find someone appealing, he has to be alpha.

It makes sense because on a biological level most women are attracted to masculinity. However, the modern females and those in the past do not share the same social conditioning. The economic game, feminism and various forms of cultural brainwashing have changed the pathways through which women find men as well as the selection criteria.

Many men who were high value before would not cut it today. The requirements have gone up in all departments – looks, money, status…etc. Once upon a time having a car, any car, was enough. Today, the model matters too.

But the external is not the only affected region. The ideology that a man should embrace according to women is different too. If once it was alpha to be a nationalist, today that makes you a simpleminded racist because this is what the movies say.

In other words, the female definition of alpha is floating due to propaganda and manipulation.

Are steroid users alpha according to women? It all depends on the looks of the individual and his place in society. If you are sufficiently tall, rich and handsome, your steroid-induced muscles will enhance your alpha status. If you are short, bald and get severe acne from your roid abuse, you will be labeled as an overcompensating beta loser who should “overcome his insecurities” by finding the right hobby.

Do you see the pattern? Your actions do not matter. All that matters is how you look and how well you are on an economical level. If you get those two things right, women will consider you attractive.

But does this make you an alpha?

You could certainly appear alpha and successful while actually being a man submissive to society who has acquired status through a combination of good genetics and some degree of effort and sacrifice.

Meanwhile, you can also be an action-based alpha considered a beta by the entire world. Real-life rebels are not appreciated by this hallucination-focused society and often end up occupying a hole in the ground or a cage.

Another beta trait of men who want to please the woman heart is their shape-shifting capability. How alpha is it to modulate the way you look and behave to the maximum so that you can attract females? It is certainly a proactive endeavor but does not fit the strict definition of alpha. You are becoming what they want you to be. This is submission.

In Conclusion

Taking steroids does not make you an alpha or a beta by default. The context and the driving motivation decide that.

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  1. Blackbeaver

    I don’t agree on “floating definition” of alpha at all, it was always about looks, power,dgaf mindset etc still is. Violent psychos in jail receive tons of love letters for a reason..

  2. Derrick Dunstable

    The human equivalent to the aforementioned alpha male in the pride of lions would probably be someone like Pablo Escobar, the perfect human species counterpart which we can draw frightening parallels with. Relentless and utterly ruthless, he likewise thought nothing of killing civilians as well as women and babies alike – even in communities that supported him – to get what he wanted. And while he too was not much to look at, and probably nowhere near the physically strongest of his own pack, he could nonetheless command 100% of the attention from strong legions of men willing to do his bidding (and even die for him) through respect, strength, fear and intimidation tactics, similar to those of the lions. A full alpha and psychopath in the very definition of those words.

    And yet…Pablo Escobar was nothing but a small fish in a global sea of killer sharks.

    The real top alphas of our planet are those men of influence who hold such enormous positions of power in international economic, social and political circles, and are able to escape the very exposure to their crimes much less ever face any actual prosecution for any evil act that they commit. They are like living walking franchises/corporations, with full diplomatic immunity wherever they go, and operate with stealth and similar alliances as their primary weapon of control and manipulation. Make no mistake about it, these people are out there causing much of the misery in this world – and you will probably never even hear their actual name much less who they are.

    1. Joe

      Great comment. I have been more recently investing in bitcoin but it’s no different than any other market that’s been pillaged and is now dictated my moguls. When a handful of guys hold 1/4 of the market, it’s easy to collude and send the market screaming up or down depending on their most profitable strategy for the given time. Not long ago one bitcoin owner moved 250m off coin-base overnight and there was thousands of people talking about it the next day.

      1. Dr.Paleo

        No no no no, youre deluded by media outlets trying to re-invent the term alpha and normalize/rationalize psychopath tendencies. Youre too far removed from Felidae to even draw parallels from their evolutionary life history. Humanizing non homo behaviors in other species is called Anthropomorphism and is attributed to Apophenia (perceive similarities due to a distant homology), yet the exact mechanism is more complicated than that. Modern humans did not branch out due to their size/brutality/individualism… infact one of the reasons we got past the grey matter ceiling (larger brain size), was due to empathy and cooperation – sharing foods. Passive, and less dominant males were viewed as more attractive since they could achieve more together. You will notice the appearance of chins in modern homo, due to shrinkage of the mandible and face as a whole (preference for less dominating males). This is pretty much the explanation you would here from the person that even coined the term alpha.

  3. Grinch

    Steroid use decreases sex drive, and increases baldness and acne. This won’t appeal to women. She might ask, “What happened to you balls? They are so shriveled. ” She might want to get pregnant, and the steroid user might not have enough sperm.

    The whole massive muscle building with drugs is somewhat gay. Top level bodybuilders are often sponsored by wealthy gay men. Joe Weidner’s magazines were largely targeted at the gay audience. This is not alpha.

    Any trained MMA fighter or boxer could readily kick the shit out of any Arnold, so not alpha. On the alpha side, being large and muscular means one would be less likely to be mugged.

    1. humancrane

      1. how many cycles you did that you claim that steroids kill libido? Okay, they can wreck it – in the off-cycle phase (and there are meds for that). On cycle you are a walking fuckmachine
      2. gays cant be alpha? why? their sexual market is different but they still have to compete. Hell, gays are even more sexually active than women and getting a good partner is just as hard as getting a good woman.
      3. who would have thought, that training in combat makes you better in combat than people training for completely different effects. Physical violence isnt bad but its not what makes an alpha. A commanding presence and social charisma are much more. Who cares somebody beat you up when you got a band of friends to jump that mofo next time?

    2. twp

      Your information is kind of wrong.

      You can go on cruise and blast with some HCG which will keep your HPT axis working, i.e. your balls working despite using insane amounts of steroids. But doing steroid cycles without HCG and without PCT will definitely fuck up your sexual drive and fertility(there are some man who are able to fully recover even without PCT, and their libido stays intact, they the lucky ones).
      I know some guys supporting their blast and cruise with HCG from like 10 years and everything is ok with their balls and and sperm count judging from spermogram tests. Btw FYI all this cost like like 7k$ per year(including tests, anabolic steroids and peptides)

      And who the fuck cares if its alpha or not? Gay or not it makes money and this is all that matters. I have seen some gays being manlier than some straight guys.

      Does it really matter if a MMA fighter can kick the shit out of any big muscular guy like Arnold? This is unrealistic scenario happening only in movies. Also weight categories need to match. So for 110 kg roided monster you need MMA fighter who is ~110 kg probably roided too, because MMA is mainstream sport.

      1. Grinch

        Keep the needle out of your butt – it might give you a different view of the world.
        Alpha refers to attracting women, not whether you are a top or a bottom.

        1. twp

          So you what is your point?
          I never touched anything btw.

      2. CJ

        “Gay or not it makes money and this all that matters” … lol. *Beta confirmed

    3. Oz

      “[Weider’s] magazines were largely targeted at the gay audience”

      Huh? I read the initial ones were, but in their prime they were deviously marketed directly to teenage boys.

      1. Grinch

        I agree the target audience included straight bodybuilders and teenage boys, as well as gays. Weider had more than one magazine. I have read that one magazine of his specifically targeted a gay audience. Ahead of his time perhaps.

  4. Bevan Wilkins

    you’re usually right but your blog remains too much focused on bodybuilding still. Or even powerlifting, which is not that far from bodybuilding in terms of mentality nowadays (worth mentioning low bar GM “squat” is disgusting and PL’s as much athletic as bodybuilding, zero). But you’re ignoring the fact that steroids = PEDs, so used to enhance athletic performance. In strength sports, not all lifters are bodybuilders or care about physique. Show me an olympic weightlifter that you can point to saying ‘this guy is overcompensating beta’. You won’t be throwing any competitive number overhead without enhancers. Yeah most men today are beta faggots, but women also prefer beta faggots more and more, and they are also becoming whatever is synonymous with men being beta. Women are capable of athleticism and strength feats too, without touching bodybuilding, but most are just entitled brainwashed sacks of shit obsessed with “losing weight”. Look at Cristina Iovu and compare that to average “woman”. Yes, there are many lifters who don’t lift for “physical attractiveness” (otherwise I’d be deluded snatching will cause hypertrophy), just like football players don’t play football for “physical attractiveness”. (Physical) domination is a different story, be it on field, in ring, on platform, so forth. But this is how it should be, not the “only face matters” gay shit that everyone seems to be obsessed with recently.

    1. BoneIsEverything

      “Only face matters” is not “gay bullshit”. A good face is a sign of genetic health. It is THE most important thing when it comes to women.

      1. redpilliscope

        Provide the evidence for your nonsense, other than “red pill” reddit quackery or tinder “studies”. I’d be even more interested in your first bullshit claim “good face is a sign of genetic health” – what the fuck does this mean and what would be a “good face” according to science, you despicable idiot?

    2. twp

      Whats your point with Christina Lovu? Without roids she would probably one rep 120-130 kgdeadlift and 90kg squat at max. But since she used PEDs she is able to lift and rep more than any other woman.
      And looking at whats is going on in instagram and some of the gyms where I am going women are not obsessed with “losing weight”, but to make legs and butt as muscular as possible.

      1. Bevan Wilkins

        “Women are capable of athleticism and strength feats too, without touching bodybuilding” there since you’re not capable of reading

        Cristina Iovu not Christina Lovu. Since you missed that, its obvious you probably googled the name just to make your half assed comment about PED usage, while not being able to tell difference between clean and deadlift+reverse curl. YOu don’t even know what sport she competes in probably.

        it doesn’t matter PEDs or not lol
        She can take as many as she wants, she’s still elite level athlete. yeah of course you’re saying you’d squat the same as Tian Tao only if he didn’t “use PEDs”.

        Most gym rat women are cardio bunnies and just as dumb, ignorant and lazy as any other thot that still looks average or actual shit all while demanding “top 5% men”.

        I don’t know where you live but even on instagram, women who are making the legs as juicy as possible are so rare that guess what….. I KNOW ABOUT EVERY SINGLE ONE of them. and im not talking about actual IFBB pros. Women have dumb obsessions, yeah ass, but small everything else. most are too scared to lift anything so they don’t get too juicy overnight.

  5. Emre

    I love this site, youre talking the real truth that the people scared to talk, ur changing my life, i finally stop killing my self on a squat rack, and start working my upper body more and fix my poor cringy looking man bo*bs lmao, i was a starting strenght /squat slave, didnt do much curls, at the gym people would make fun of me that i look like a trex or that i didnt gained any muscle for months, i was calling them BROS cuz i thought i was smarter than them, in reality im not, i was just a stup*d skinny fat person who scares to do curls.

    I finally started to make some gains, i wish i would find this page earlier , anyway thx for everything

  6. Grinch

    Injected testosterone will partially be converted into estrogen. If an estrogen blocker is not used, the bodybuilder will end up as a hormonally confused individual. Men with bitch tits then look like muscular shemales. Extended bellys have also been seen in recent years. Bottom line – looks matter, and chemically enhanced individuals need to know what they are doing. Knowing what they are doing translates into being monitored by a PED knowledgeable physician. Otherwise you too could be the accidental shemale.

  7. Fatman

    The article and discussion both fail to mention that the “alpha” and “beta” nonsense, as applied to humans, was discredited years ago. Whichever pathetic “red pill” loser guru popularized it back in the day based it on a study of wolf packs in the wild. If memory serves, even the authors of the study bashed it as misinterpretation and pseudoscience.

    I.e. you can’t “win” the alpha vs. beta argument, only prove that you’re an idiot for trying. Just thought I’d throw that out there.

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