Vegan Gains – Natural Vegan Bodybuilder Or a Steroid User?

”Vegan Gains” is the name of a popular YouTube channel promoting plant eating as the best investment you can make for the betterment of your health and conscience. Since the guy behind the videos has a pretty decent physique and likes to participate in as much YouTube battles as possible, he has attracted the attention of many people looking to build an ”aesthetic physique”.

Question is, can you have that much muscle and leanness without selling your glutes to the devil?

At first, I was unable to find the actual body stats of Vegan Gains and decided to just analyze some photos instead. It became obvious to me that most of his pictures are taken from favorable angles in order to hide the weak muscle groups and push forward the strong ones. In videos the guy disappears and has the classic depleted natty look.


In the photo below you can see Vegan Gains next to LexFitness who has also been featured on NattyOrNot.com. Obviously, Vegan Gains looks like a deflated balloon compared to Lex. This and other photos lead me to the conclusion that there is a high chance that Mr.Beans is actually one of the few naturals bodybuilders on YouTube.

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Another factor that is important to consider is that he is pretty much all arms or should I say all biceps.

Try to remove his biceps from the photo and you will realize that he is not that big. I guess this is also one of the reasons the kid always tries to put his guns in your face. They have to be his ”best muscle”.

Then, I asked the people who have liked NattyOrNot.com’s Facebook page what Vegan Gains’ actual stats are. As a result I was able to find a video interview with him where it is revealed that he has the following body stats:

Height: 6’3” – 190.5 cm;
Weight: 180-185 lbs – 85 kg;
Body fat: unknown but I guess about 10% or maybe even below;

You can consult the video underneath. He lists his stats at about 4:10.

Those are actually pretty realistic stats for natural bodybuilders of his height. In NattyOrNot’s guide, which has been correct many times, you can see that a person who is 6’3” could have a maximum weight of about 203 lbs. However, don’t forget that this guide is for the elite of the elite or in simple words – the muscle freaks. I don’t believe regular people can get there naturally.

The stats of Vegan Gains don’t scream steroids right away, and you will be hard pressed to find a modern fitness model that is under 200-210 lbs at 6’3”.

Where are you traps, bro?

Another element that needs to be pointed out is that Vegan Gains has rather weak trap and neck development, which is rare for a steroid juicer. We all know that your traps and shoulders blow up when you take steroids. I am not saying this is true for everybody, but in 99% of the cases juicers don’t have so underdeveloped traps in relation to their arms.

Angles, smoke and mirrors

At the end of the day, most of Vegan Gains’ photos are smoke and mirrors. He is using the classic natty techniques to make yourself bigger – pump, Photoshop, lightning, sharpening…etc.

With similar methods almost anybody can be made to appear pretty damn big. This has been proven countless times by the beachbody guys’ after photos.

FAQ:

Q: Do you think Vegan Gains is an immoral person because of the crazy stuff he says?

A: I wasn’t paying much attention to Vegan Gains until I received an e-mail from a reader talking about escalating YouTube drama. It turned out that Vegan Gains supposedly wanted to film the last minutes of his grandfather and upload the video on YouTube to showcase what eating animal products does to you.

While I think this is incredibly stupid in general, I can also see it being a bluff meant to get more views. We all know that people love outrageous drama. That’s why the celebrity gossip magazines get so much love from the crowd. Thus, I would not be surprised if Vegan Gains was trolling the whole YouTube fitness circle jerk.

Does this make him immoral? Yes, because of the poorly chosen topic.

Q: Vegan Gains has a lot of research in his videos. Do you think he is always right?

A: Fuck research. There is so much of it these days that you can always find one that supports your belief.

Think about it! Some researchers are backing climate change (global warming) while others don’t. I prefer to believe the latter. Why? Because the supporters of global warming are most likely trying to push the agenda simply to collect more revenue from taxes.

Consequently, you can’t always treat research as concrete evidence. In order for it to be of any value, it has to be made by people who are independent and knowledgeable, which is something that cannot be said about the big statistical institutes. Those guys can easily be bought.

In conclusion

You can never know whether somebody is 100% natural. However, the data suggests that there is a very high chance that this dude is natural.

By the way, I want you to consider the following: last year I wrote an article on Omar Isuf and at that time he was 5’9″ -175 cm @ 182 lbs – 82 kg. Vegan Gains is about the same weight and 6’3” (6 inches taller). Weird, isn’t it?

I gave Omar a 3 out of 5 chance to be a natty. I give Vegan Gains 4.5 out of 5.

10 comments

  1. jac

    I just wanted to point out that climate change is NOT a topic where “everyone has to decide what they believe”.
    One side is backed by overwhelming and independent scientific evidence, the other one is a conspiracy theory that’s mostly being put forward by the fossil fuel industry and its likes. Everyone should be aware of that. If the credibility of one position is as questionable as in this case, it’s not okay to use it in a different context as an example of a thing where everybody should make up their own mind.

  2. Gladiator

    Hello,

    I respect your research and level of comprehension overall but I choose to disagree on the chances you have given those two mentioned above based on my own experience and training for the last 51 years.

    I give Omar a 0 out of 5 for being natty and Vegan Gains maybe a 4.9 out of 5. Just my two cents.

    You are on the dot regarding most of your conclusions and I admire your honesty and guts in not giving in to online detractors.

    Keep up the good work.

  3. Jg

    As soon as this guy said he doesn’t acknowledge climate change I clocked out. You’re a joke. Every relevant scientific study has found it is real and it is already causing mass migration around the world. No scientist is making money from “revenue and taxes” associated with curbing climate change lmao

    1. trev

      I’ve been around long enough to live through the hysteria that we were going to start another ice age, then global warming and now the vague climate change which you can pigeon hole virtually any weather anomaly into. There’s plenty of money to be made in climate change as non profits are very well funded. My town just went through the coldest and longest winter it’s had in 20 years. Weather changes, calling it climate change is unscientific and falls outside the realm of science which is supposed to be able to make predictions based on a theory. Climate change most definitely is an agenda with well funded advocates and even oil companies fund climate change research. The hysterical posts here just confirm my suspicions that the average person is not very well read and is highly suggestible to the programming that comes from the media.

      More money should be focused on pollution and cleaning up the oceans and lakes and stop making cheap crap in china that ends up in landfills after a year.

  4. SahDuh

    LMAO this idiot says it’s stupid to back your claims with research because, “Fuck research, There is so much of it these days that you can always find one that supports your belief.”! You’re pathetically moronic. How the fuck does one make a claim without providing scientific evidence? It’s all you can do. With that thought process, people like you and Scott Mendelson get rekt by Vegan Gains every time. You’ll sit in front of a camera, or behind or keyboard and spout off nonsense with nothing to back it up besides a token of anecdotal evidence, and think you’re winning because research is pointless. The very computer you type on, or the camera you use, is a product of research. God you are a fucking idiot.

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